To J. D. Hooker 17 November [1861]1
Down Bromley Kent
Nov. 17th
My dear Hooker
What two very interesting & useful letters you have sent me.2 You rather astound me with respect to value of grounds of generalisation in the morphology of plants.3 It reminds me that years ago I sent you a grass to name & your answer was “it is certainly Festuca — (so & so) but it agrees as badly with the description as most plants do.”!4 I have often laughed over this answer of a great Botanist.— All that which you say about “chorisis” is as new to me as the term itself:5 I will be cautious; the notion seemed to me monstrous, & I should still think it so, unless in an allied plant I can show gradation towards it; & then surely you would admit that it was at least possible.— But I have not yet looked at Bonatea, & the longer it soaks in Spirits the better.—6
Lindley, from whom I asked for an orchid with simple Labellum has most kindly sent me a lot of what he marks “rare” & “rarissimo” of peloric orchids &c; but as they are dried, I know not whether they will be of use.7 He has been most kind & has suggested my writing to Lady D. Nevill who has responded in wonderfully kind manner & has sent a lot of treasures.8 But I must stop, otherwise by Jove I shall be transformed into a Botanist. I wish I had been one: this morphology is surprisingly interesting. Looking to your note, I may add that certainly the 15 alternating bundles of spiral vessels (mingled with odd bead-like vessels in some cases) are present in many Orchid; the inner whorl of anther-ducts are oftenest aborted.— I must keep clear of Apostasia, though I have cast many a longing look at it in Bauer.—9
What a very interesting case that of the Crucifer with many stamens & its relation to Papavers!—
Your note about St. Thomas is wonderfully curious: the mammals in Fernando Po show it was anciently united to mainland: but as far as I can remember I concluded on investigation that the mammals in St. Thomas were all introduced, & that the isld. had always been an island. Do you not think that this will bear on non-migration during glacial period. Is there not great dearth of temperate forms on Teneriffe?10
Pray thank heartily that living index, Oliver, for telling me of French Book, which is ordered.—11
I hope I may be well enough to read my own paper on Thursday, but I have been very seedy lately:12 I see that there is paper at Royal on same night at Royal, which will more concern you on fossil plants of Bovey;13 so that I suppose I shall not have you; but you must read my paper when published, as I shall very much like to hear what you think. It seems to me a large field for experiment.— I am now trying one on Heterocentron roseum a Melastomatous plant with 2 sorts of anthers.14 I shall make use of my Orchid little volume in illustrating modification-of-species-doctrine; but I keep very very doubtful whether I am not doing a foolish action in publishing. How I wish you would keep to your old intention & write a book on Plants.15
Adios my dear old friend | C. Darwin
It strikes me as a fundamental point in value of Homologies of Ducts, in what course they are developed & I cannot find out this: when a petal is first formed, is the duct in it a prolongation upwards from a bundle below, or downwards from the petal to join a previously existing duct.— If the latter one can see how the ducts might go astray.—
(By odd chance I have just stumbled on dispute on this point in Bull. Soc. Bot. & I see both opposite views stoutly maintained.)16
Footnotes
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Bauer, Franz Andreas. 1830–8. Illustrations of orchidaceous plants … with notes and prefatory remarks by John Lindley. London.
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Dunal, Michel Félix. 1829. Considérations sur la nature et les rapports de quelques uns des organes de la fleur. Montpellier.
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Orchids: On the various contrivances by which British and foreign orchids are fertilised by insects, and on the good effects of intercrossing. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1862.
Pengelly, William. 1862. The lignites and clays of Bovey Tracey, Devonshire. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London 152: 1019–38. [Vols. 9,10]
Summary
JDH’s letter on grounds of generalisation in plant morphology.
Faunal distribution and the glacial period.
Orchid homologies.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-3322
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Joseph Dalton Hooker
- Sent from
- Down
- Source of text
- DAR 115: 131
- Physical description
- ALS 6pp
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 3322,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-3322.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 9